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By Flatpanels
#14203 Our review of the Sony A9F (USA) / AF9 (Europe) is online. It is Sony's new flagship OLED TV with an upgraders processor, 4K Dolby Vision, Acoustic Surface+ speakers, and Android Oreo.

If you have questions please use this thread.

Enjoy.
By Kuschelmonschter
#14204 The pros/cons section in the end does not seem to reflect the AF9...
+ Full array local dimming
+ Color reproduction, processing
+ One Connect box
+ Well-functioning OS
+ Great remote control

- Narrow viewing angles
- Backlight sometimes gets “confused“
- Tizen not getting updates


It has also gained support for HDMI eARC that allows it to handle lossless audio, including Dolby Atmos and DTS:X.

That's nice in theory... So far, Sony didn't even support the ENCODING_DTS API for ARC and S/PDIF passthrough via apps. So it leaves to be seen what formats those TVs do in real life for both, apps and external HDMI devices.
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By Torben Rasmussen
#14206 There was no response from those mics. Google Assistant isn't working on the AF9 in Denmark.
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By Torben Rasmussen
#14207
Kuschelmonschter wrote:The pros/cons section in the end does not seem to reflect the AF9...

Copy/paste error from our template.

Kuschelmonschter wrote:Would have been interesting to know whether they can catch up the spoken word very well. I have my doubts on that.
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That's nice in theory... So far, Sony didn't even support the API for ARC and S/PDIF passthrough via apps. So it leaves to be seen what formats those TVs do in real life for both, apps and external HDMI devices.

Continuing with the positive attitude I see.
By Kuschelmonschter
#14208
Continuing with the positive attitude I see.

Well, considering how they f*'ed up Kodi this time... yes indeed.

BTW, if you change the package ID of the Kodi APK to something else, it installs just fine. So it looks to have been blacklisted due to problems. Kodi in fact only starts when audio output is being set to external audio system, but not when being set to TV internal speakers. So yes, I have zero faith in this company to get things right.
By hristoslav2
#14210 AF9
Platform - BRAVIA_ATV3
AM-OLED (WRGB) LGDisplay, 10-bit, 4 - generation, 120Hz
Mediatek 5893(5598) - 4xARM Cortex-A73 @ 1500MHz
64-bit ARMv8-A (32-bit mode)
GPU - ARM Mali-G71
RAM - 4GB
Storage - 16GB
(approximately 6GB available)

The marketing names and co-processors for which they refer + TV models
X-Reality™ Pro: CXD4727 + CXD90001G [WF6 and RF4]
4K X-Relity™ Pro (2014): CXD4741GB [XF80, XF75 and XF70]
Processor X1™(2015): CXD4753GB (10-bit processing) [XF87 and XF85]
Processor X1™ Extreme (2016): CXD4757GB (14-bit processing) [A1, AF8, and XF90]
Processor X1™ Ultimate (2018): CXD.... (14-bit processing) [AF9 and ZF9]
The co-processors in the older models are on a separate "DPS board & DKA board".
In the junior models (XE70 / XE80 / XF70 / XF75 / XF80) there is only one processor on the "Main board".
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By Kuschelmonschter
#14212 According to Kodi community, the following passthrough formats are supported:
Code: Select all20:19:15.072 T:18446744072875407728   DEBUG: Firmware implements AC3 RAW
20:19:15.089 T:18446744072875407728   DEBUG: Firmware implements EAC3 RAW
20:19:15.105 T:18446744072875407728   DEBUG: Firmware implements DTS RAW
20:19:15.123 T:18446744072875407728   DEBUG: Firmware implements DTS-HD RAW


So they seem to have added DTS and DTS HD RAW support. No True HD RAW and IEC61937 API support though.

Guess Sony added DTS support because of the IMAX Enhanced program that they are part of.
By Kuschelmonschter
#14216
Sony users can reduce the effect by deactivating “remote start"

I recorded power consumption over night in a 1s interval with both, "Remote start" enabled and disabled. Curve looked exactly the same. Takes 1-2h for the TV to go into deep sleep after turning it off and then wakes up every 3-5 minutes.

A few times, the TV even woke up our devices connected over HDMI.

I can reproduce an issue in that regard too. But it only happens with an Apple TV connected to the BRAVIA. When the Sony wakes up, it also seems to trigger the Apple TV somehow (it does not completely turn on but when measuring power consumption of the Apple TV you can see that something is indeed happening) which in turn turns on the soundbar connected to the BRAVIA via ARC.